Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
Forums Guild Wiki PvX Wiki
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Hall of Knowledge > Gladiator's Arena
Reload this Page [6MAN] Balanced(ish) HA Build
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Aug 29, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #1
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default [6MAN] Balanced(ish) HA Build
Fairly straight forward melee-heavy balanced build:

- Shock Axe Warriors - Killing things with adren spike, and interrupts as neccesary.

- Surger - Puts pressure on opposing backlines, and controlls corpses as Profanes will destroy the smite.

- Smiter - Mainly smites off the Warriors, but can switch to smiting off a Monk if they are being heavily pressured by melee.

- Boon Prot - Main spike defense, pre-prot is key.

- Word Heal - Standard stuff; Seed Hero etc...



Shock Axe
Warrior/Elementalist

Strength: 10 (9+1)
Axe Mastery: 16 (12+4)
Air Magic: 9

- Shock (Air Magic)
- Bull's Strike (Strength)
- Distracting Blow (Warrior other)
- Frenzy (Warrior other)
- Eviscerate [Elite] (Axe Mastery)
- Executioner's Strike (Axe Mastery)
- Rush (Strength)
- Resurrection Signet ()



Shock Axe
Warrior/Elementalist

Strength: 10 (9+1)
Axe Mastery: 16 (12+4)
Air Magic: 9

- Shock (Air Magic)
- Bull's Strike (Strength)
- Distracting Blow (Warrior other)
- Frenzy (Warrior other)
- Eviscerate [Elite] (Axe Mastery)
- Executioner's Strike (Axe Mastery)
- Sprint (Strength)
- Resurrection Signet ()



Smite Monk
Monk/Mesmer

Divine Favor: 9 (8+1)
Smiting Prayers: 16 (12+4)
Protection Prayers: 9 (8+1)
Inspiration Magic: 7

- Air of Enchantment [Elite] (Protection Prayers)
- Balthazar's Aura (Smiting Prayers)
- Zealot's Fire (Smiting Prayers)
- Reversal of Fortune (Protection Prayers)
- Draw Conditions (Protection Prayers)
- Smite Hex (Smiting Prayers)
- Channeling (Inspiration Magic)
- Resurrection Signet ()



Surger
Mesmer/Necromancer

Fast Casting: 9 (8+1)
Domination Magic: 14 (12+2)
Inspiration Magic: 10 (9+1)
Illusion Magic: 3 (2+1)
Death Magic: 5

- Energy Surge [Elite] (Domination Magic)
- Energy Burn (Domination Magic)
- Diversion (Domination Magic)
- Drain Enchantment (Inspiration Magic)
- Cry of Frustration (Domination Magic)
- Consume Corpse (Death Magic)
- Blackout (Domination Magic)
- Resurrection Signet ()



Boon Prot
Monk/Mesmer

Divine Favor: 14 (12+2)
Protection Prayers: 10 (9+1)
Inspiration Magic: 9

- Reversal of Fortune (Protection Prayers)
- Guardian (Protection Prayers)
- Protective Spirit (Protection Prayers)
- Signet of Devotion (Divine Favor)
- Mend Condition (Protection Prayers)
- Inspired Hex (Inspiration Magic)
- Energy Drain [Elite] (Inspiration Magic)
- Divine Boon (Divine Favor)



Word Heal
Monk/Mesmer

Divine Favor: 9 (8+1)
Healing Prayers: 14 (12+2)
Domination Magic: 5
Inspiration Magic: 9

- Word of Healing [Elite] (Healing Prayers)
- Dwayna's Kiss (Healing Prayers)
- Hex Breaker (Domination Magic)
- Orison of Healing (Healing Prayers)
- Heal Party (Healing Prayers)
- Healing Seed (Healing Prayers)
- Inspired Hex (Inspiration Magic)
- Channeling (Inspiration Magic)
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06   #2
Banned
 
Yanman.be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
Default
*any reason to run 8 air magic?* Not 9 for the offhand?
Last edited by Yanman.be; Aug 29, 2006 at 07:11 PM // 19:11..
Yanman.be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27   #3
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
*any reason to run 8 air magic?* Not 9 for the offhand?
It's not for the offhand, I simply took a bit out of Strength to buff the Shock damage slightly. Not that Shock damage actually matters much, but Strength is pretty garbage. It doesn't honestly matter, usually I have strength at 13 and Air at 2.
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31   #4
Banned
 
Yanman.be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
Default
Oi I'd go for the offhand then.
Yanman.be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43   #5
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Default
You should never *need* the offhand.
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48   #6
sno
Look into the Eye.
 
sno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Detroit, Mi
Guild: Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]
Profession: Mo/
Default
I'm not sure how a boon prot will fare with all the IWAYS with NR running around.
sno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01   #7
I'm back?
 
Wasteland Squidget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Here.
Guild: Delta Formation [DF]
Profession: W/E
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
I'm not sure how a boon prot will fare with all the IWAYS with NR running around.
Depends on how proactive your team is at killing spirits. NR shouldn't stay up for too long.

I like the boon prot. He mixes well with the smiter when defending a ghost on an altar. I would run Channeling on him though.

Overall, looks like a good build with nice potential if played well. I doubt Tombs players will be prepared to deal with spikes if one monk is blacked out while the other gets KDed + spiked. Conversely, this sort of build should be very easy for GvGers to get into.

Main thing I'm unsure about is relic runs. You'll probably be running with one warrior, so the lack of snares may give you issues.
Wasteland Squidget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #8
Elite Guru
 
yesitsrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Guild: SMS/Victrix
Default
the extra energy can actually help when it comes to shocking heroes trying to cap, actually. like say if the enemy caps with 6 seconds left, you'll regret not having a focus imo.
yesitsrob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13   #9
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by yesitsrob
the extra energy can actually help when it comes to shocking heroes trying to cap, actually. like say if the enemy caps with 6 seconds left, you'll regret not having a focus imo.
Noted, editing.
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #10
Krytan Explorer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Crystal Lake, Illinois
Guild: Grenths Rejects [GR]
Default
Small note: Your "Surger" is missing a minor Inspiration rune.

Other than that, it looks like a smushed GvG balanced build to me.
Sentao Nugra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #11
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra
Small note: Your "Surger" is missing a minor Inspiration rune.
Good catch.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra
Other than that, it looks like a smushed GvG balanced build to me.
How so? Every character bar the Smiter is tailored for the HA environment, and that's only because the Smiter lacks spare skill slots.
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #12
Banned
 
Yanman.be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
Default
Hah! JR-! I was right afterall!


( Not mad because you removed the pic )
Yanman.be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58   #13
Krytan Explorer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Crystal Lake, Illinois
Guild: Grenths Rejects [GR]
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
How so? Every character bar the Smiter is tailored for the HA environment, and that's only because the Smiter lacks spare skill slots.
Mesmer gets CC instead of a FC Hard Res (tailored to HA, but still looks like a GvG build) and gets an extra interrupt (HA-ish but would still work in GvG)

Warriors get Distracting instead of Protectors/Penetrating (tailored to HA, but is fun against E/Mo in GvG)

Smite and Boon are the same (as you said)

The only thing i see that isn't used in GvG is a WoH healer because there are many situations where a BLight monk is going to outperform the WoH in a GvG battle.
Sentao Nugra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 09:03 PM // 21:03   #14
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra
Mesmer gets CC instead of a FC Hard Res (tailored to HA, but still looks like a GvG build) and gets an extra interrupt (HA-ish but would still work in GvG)

Warriors get Distracting instead of Protectors/Penetrating (tailored to HA, but is fun against E/Mo in GvG)

Smite and Boon are the same (as you said)

The only thing i see that isn't used in GvG is a WoH healer because there are many situations where a BLight monk is going to outperform the WoH in a GvG battle.
So Shock Axe Warriors and Surge Mesmers are GvG specific builds...?

The Smite is a standard smiter, GvG/HA/TA. The Boon Prot I will conceed is more GvG/TA-ish, but it also simply suits 6 man builds more in my opinion.
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26   #15
Lion's Arch Merchant
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Switzerland
Profession: W/
Default
Do you think that only 3 rez sigs will be enough ?
Lord Dark Genie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #16
Jungle Guide
 
Join Date: May 2005
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
You should never *need* the offhand.
+12 energy is too good to pass up on as a shock warrior
audioaxes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 09:43 PM // 21:43   #17
JR
Re:tired
 
JR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: W/
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
+12 energy is too good to pass up on as a shock warrior
I would argue that +16 AL, +30hp and some other defensive mod was far too good to pass up on a Warrior...
JR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47   #18
Banned
 
Yanman.be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
Default
It's 16 AL, or 12 energy. What do you choose if you have enough of one side already? You choose the second side!
Yanman.be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #19
I'm back?
 
Wasteland Squidget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Here.
Guild: Delta Formation [DF]
Profession: W/E
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
I would argue that +16 AL, +30hp and some other defensive mod was far too good to pass up on a Warrior...
There's very few splits in HA, and overextensions aren't that big an issue. The only time the opposition is likely to be hitting your warriors is if you're running a relic, and you don't get your shield then anyway.

IMO, focus is slightly better on these guys, especially with Shock as the only reliable Ghostly interrupt in your build.
Wasteland Squidget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 29, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #20
Jungle Guide
 
Join Date: May 2005
Default
actually i choose both since i can always swap to a shield if im under pressure attacked
audioaxes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:59 PM // 20:59.

Contact Us - Guild Wars Guru - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("